Verio’s box is still operational. I still find some of the spammy domains pinging that box.
I think we need to collect all the domains we know are on that box, and e-mail Verio, insisting that those websites, and any reseller account they’re connected to, be shut down.
I was looking for a program that did batch dns lookups, from host name to IP address. Just found one: NSbatch. What I do, is that I grep my log file, for any UA containing NT 5.2, then exclude any line including annelisabeth.com. Exclude Google as well, while you’re at it. Then take the results and put them into Word. Convert to table, using for instance ” as the separator. Remove all the columns except that including the referrer. Then sort alphabetically and convert back to text. I usually remove the identical lines, but that’s not necessary. Finally save in a text file and use as input to NSBatch.
I did just that with all the referrer spam in my log. And I found some domains currently without an IP number, a few sites still at the Verio box, and the rest divided between 64.234.220.141 and 219.150.118.16.
Oh, and one oddity I found was that one subdomain of fidelityfunding was hosted on the Verio box, while another was on 219.150.118.16.
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I was reading Reid’s article and the comments. Very interesting reading.
Especially Gary’s argument about referrer spam possibly not being against the AUP. I was thinking along those same lines. IE, is anyone going to complain about me finding blogs commenting on this issue, then commenting and leaving link to my blog?
And the answer is, it’s very different.
When I do that, I’m commenting on topic. Often pointing out that the owner of the blog is gloating too soon about a spammer’s cancelled site. I never leave my link unless I’m commenting on topic.
And I never leave my referrer in someone’s log, unless someone clicked on a link on my site, thus naturally putting that referrer in the recipient site’s log.
The spammy sites never have links to me. They spam via a piece of software created for that purpose alone. So this is a different animal.
But, that being said, how easy would it be for a spammer to fool a hosting company? Probably not very hard. So far, I’ve virtually always been met with one response when I’ve talked to admins about this: They think it’s e-mail spam. Sometimes I’ve been asked to include e-mail headers, and sometimes I’ve been told it’s not possible - their server is not an open relay. The concepts involved in this issue is not well known.
What we need, is an outcry strong enough, so that admins will hear about it, same as they eventually did with open relays. And to get there, we may have to organize better than we have until now.
A site dealing with at least three topic would be good: comment spamming, referrer spamming and open proxies. I guess webspamming might be a term loosely relevant.